Yesterday, on December 6, at 8:00 p.m., the Union Channel hosted the Politkuhnya (The Political Kitchen) political talk show.

There were discussed the following subjects: Kiev’s red lines and great exposures, the issues of preparation for the Normandy Format summit, as well as the question of what provisions are contained in the secret plan for the deportation of the Donbass population approved by Zelensky.

The talk show was attended by: DPR People’s Council deputy Vladislav Berdichevsky, Donetsk Republic Public Movement’s representative Andrei Bedilo, Deputy Head of the Novy Svet Village Council Mikhail Karbovsky, political expert Andrei Babitsky, and official spokesperson for the DPR PMD Rinat Aigistov.

Rinat Aigistov, the official spokesperson for the DPR People’s Militia Directorate, gave details of the SBU secret operation in the DPR.

“The involvement of colonels in a secret subversive group is unprecedented, but such things still happen. The details of this plan have been elaborated for quite a long time, and many representatives of the Ukrainian military command must have known about this operation in the DPR rear. Two colonels of the SBU, Kaplunov and Volochayev, as part of the secret subversive group attempted a break-through in the grey zone to the military contact lines on our side. Why did they do this? That was done in order to engage fire from the DPR positions onto the AFU territory, that is, to carry out an act of sabotage from our side, to draw the Ukrainian forces’ fire on the DPR People’s Militia positions and thus provoke the latter into opening return fire.

Moreover, at that time, representatives of the Defense Ministry of Ukraine were planning to visit the 128th AFU brigade. The sabotage act was intended to eliminate one of the senior representatives of this agency on the spot by means of our weapons,” Rinat Aigistov said.

Political analyst Andrei Babitsky spoke about Zelensky’s position between a rock and a hard place.

“The Ukrainian armed forces are largely controlled by radicals who protest against Zelensky’s capitulation policy. I think that the SBU has failed to take control of either the lower or the middle level of the new ruling power. The same goes for the Ukrainian army. A significant number of senior officials are engaged in another agenda, which had been formed by the previous government. It is clear that they would seek to disrupt the meeting in Paris and even gave Zelensky an ultimatum. I think that the army and the SBU are giving Zelensky the same undeclared ultimatum,” Andrei Babitsky said.

Andrei Bedilo, adviser to the Head of the Central Executive Committee of the Donetsk Republic Public Movement, stated his opinion on the situation in Ukraine.

“I would like to note another vector of those puppet manipulators who have come to Ukraine over the years of independence and brought tons of green cash. Perhaps we can now draw parallels with a civil war, when in one village they are red troops, in another one — white troops, and in the third one — green troops. Something of the kind is going on. There are quite a lot of puppet manipulators in Ukraine now, and they are solving their geopolitical problems. We are like a burr in their saddle, because we think differently and will never take what they want to pass on to us. Therefore, all the plans they have made up are meant to strategically play for the most important resource — time,” Andrei Bedilo said.

DPR People’s Council deputy Vladislav Berdichevsky spoke about the consequences that may be brought on to us by the plans of the Ukrainian authorities to deport the people of Donbass.

“I think that there will be some developments according to the scenario made up by the SBU against the people of Donbass. Surely no one believes that Zelensky is able to enter the peace process and to agree to a direct dialogue with the Republics. The actions of politicians confirm that Ukraine is ranked first in Europe in mental illnesses. Therefore, any Ukrainian leader can make diametrically opposed statements during the day. Everyone understands where the chaos in Ukraine is controlled from. I think that one should not hope for radical changes until the presidential election takes place in the United States next year,” DPR People’s Council deputy Vladislav Berdichevsky said.

Deputy Head of the Novy Svet Village Council Mikhail Karbovsky shared some more ideas on the same topic.

“We must understand that whatever emanating from Ukraine is their dreams. The document on the deportation of the people of Donbass suggests that Zelensky ends up with the terror policy of the ’30s, which was pursued in Germany. And all the hopes that people placed on him are shattered. As for Ukraine’s requirements to replace the representatives of the DPR and LPR to the Normandy Format negotiations, in my understanding this is pure business, direct lobbying for the interests of the business elite, who used to be based in Donbass and are trying to come back officially,” Deputy Head of the Novy Svet Village Council Mikhail Karbovsky said.